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It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

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The Enduring Charm of 'It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia' With The Nightman Cometh

Ever wondered how a show about despicable characters became America's longest-running live-action sitcom? Discover the unique appeal of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" as Amanda Davies and Jacquie J Sarah dissect the magic behind its success. Jacquie shares her experience of viewing the characters as live-action cartoons, making them more palatable. Amanda dives into her initial struggles with the series, explaining how the cleverness and humour eventually won her over, making the show a comfort watch despite its gross-out moments and cyclical nature.

Join us for a nostalgic ride through the iconic episode "The Nightman Cometh," complete with fascinating trivia.  We'll revisit Charlie's rock opera masterpiece, the gang's chaotic dynamics, and the live audience's role in bringing the episode to life. Plus, get the lowdown on Kaitlin Olsen's influential contributions. This episode is packed with insights and humour that will make you appreciate "It's Always Sunny" all over again.

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Speaker 1:

Hi, this is Amanda Davies and Jacquie J Sarah, and welcome to that TV Comedy Podcast. Yay. For each episode we'll be taking a look at a television comedy series, breaking it down with a focus on a specific episode, giving it a bit of a deep dive, geeking out about it and generally discussing it. The series I've chosen is it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, and the episode is Season 4, episode 13, the Nightman Cometh. Can I ask why you've chosen it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? I know why, but I'd like you to articulate it. Why, apart from being American TV's longest-running live-action sitcom? Yes, it's brilliant. Quite frankly, I was going to say what am I doing to us if it's America's largest running sitcom? So the reason I chose this series was it's so different to anything else that we see on TV.

Speaker 1:

I started watching this series a long time before you. It would have been when the first maybe three or four seasons were on Netflix in the UK and I would never in a million years have recommended this to you. I struggled with watching it. Sometimes it's not something I could watch at the time and I still can't, with the first few seasons, carry on watching like, finish an episode and watch the next one, because they are so awful. Even though I appreciate it's clever and it's funny, they're so despicable. Yeah, I can't carry on. But I counted the later seasons, but not in the beginning.

Speaker 1:

So when you suddenly said I started watching it and you said, I said, oh, you're enjoying it. Yeah, it's really good. I was, oh well, you did, you had mentioned it to me, but maybe I should give it a watch, and so did our brother. Yeah, but it did take me quite a while to get around to it. So when I started watching it I wasn't sure. No, I found I found them intriguing. Yeah, but I really didn't know if I could keep watching programs about these vile characters. I just loved it and I found it so bizarre that I was actually enjoying watching a program where the characters disgusted me. I just couldn't relate to them.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing relatable about them.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's the key thing for this show. It flies in the face Of the usual format Of a story, of a series. Now you're the writer. Correct me if I'm wrong. We really don't care about these characters, Other than wanting them to fail, I suppose. But there's no hero role, and isn't it always that we've got to have the protagonist, the antagonist? But there's no hero role, and isn't it always that we've got to have the protagonist, the antagonist? And we've got this nice little story arc where the hero comes along and solves everything and then everything is reset, Apart from the hero. Maybe the hero arc and I agree with you, the hero arc is really prominent.

Speaker 1:

Sitcom is a rolling circle of equilibrium. So the characters start in one position and they end in the same position, but obviously something kicks off and they have a little adventure and then by the end everything resets and we're back to day one. So the characters never really change. I mean, they may change over years, but you know, Homer is still going to be Homer. Cartoon is a little bit different because they don't age Friends, for example. They're still living in those apartments and they may change a bit who lives with who? And they don't really change. Joey and Phoebe, I would argue, never changed in the whole 10 years of it. Joey was still Joey. Phoebe may have got married, but she was still the same Phoebe in the beginning. So it fits into the category of a sitcom, I suppose yeah, because instead of rooting for them, we want them to fail, and they do each time.

Speaker 2:

It's not because they keep failing it resets.

Speaker 1:

It resets and they never learn. Those characters never learn, no, no. So they'll continue being foul every single week. But at some stage you root for one or the other characters, like some episodes. You really root for Charlie and others. He's drinking paint, so you're like no, I can't.

Speaker 1:

I can't deal with you, charlie. I struggle a bit with continual watching of it, binge watching of it. There's a couple of reasons for that, I believe. One is I started watching it not the same age as the characters. I'm about the same age as the actors In terms of the programme. They're growing older with me. Yes, yeah, but I didn't start watching it in the beginning, so I was slightly older than them. But obviously they've caught up as I've been watching it over the years, so I find it a bit more palatable. They're not as childish as they were when they were in their early 20s.

Speaker 2:

Let's put it that way.

Speaker 1:

And the other thing is, I think they made a decision, maybe around season four, but maybe it's before or after that that they were cartoon characters, but maybe it's before or after that that they were cartoon characters. They were live-action cartoon characters and if you can view them as cartoon characters not somebody who could live next door to you, for example then you can separate them, you can compartmentalise it.

Speaker 1:

Is that what you think? Is that why? Why do you think you love watching it? I binge watch it. Yeah, you do love watching it. I binge watch it. Yeah, you do. Yeah, I do binge watch it.

Speaker 1:

There are a couple of episodes, though, I will skip because I just find them too gross. Yeah, but it's like my comfort series. Yeah, it is for you. Yeah, for me it's, it's a comfort series.

Speaker 1:

I know that I can always put it on and be entertained, but also that nothing's ever as bad as these people. Well, I would argue that's not true. Well, for me, for you. Yeah, in your everyday life, in my everyday life. Yeah, so it's a bit of escapism, because these are situations that I'm never likely to find myself in. I never behave in the same way as these characters. I also find it really funny how righteous they are. They're self-righteous, they think they're right about everything. They think that they're not racist. They think they're not. They truly believe that they are none of the things that they blatantly are. Amanda, how much do we love? It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Let me put this another way. I've watched the Office. I've never seen the cast of the Office anywhere. I've seen Parks and Recs Never seen them anywhere, city Rock. Okay, I have seen Tina Fey, but that was quite by accident.

Speaker 2:

That was a surprise.

Speaker 1:

That was a surprise, yeah tell us about it's always sunny in philadelphia, man. About a year ago, we journeyed up to london on a sunday just for the day, in order to go to the royal albert hall to see a recording of the it's always sunny in philadelphia podcast. Who was there? Who was there man? We saw Charlie Day. Yes, ben Howerton and Rob McElhenney we did. We also saw Megan Gans. Megan Gans yes, who's Megan Gans man? So she's a writer on it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia and she also takes charge of the podcast. She's kind of the host. Yes, she's kind of the host. Yes, she's the host.

Speaker 1:

And then there was a surprise guest. Who was the surprise guest, mand? It was Caitlin Olsen. And who's she? And she plays Sweet D. Sweet D, of course, but there were video clips as well. Yeah, so Frank appeared on the video clip and Artemis appeared on the video clip. Yes, so I haven't seen Danny DeVito. I have. However, you have? He kindly put on a play in New York when I briefly visited there Last year. Kind of him To act a little play in front of me. Kind of me To put a chunk of money down so I could be so flipping close to him. Not that I'm a stalker, we've grown up watching Danny DeVito. Let's face it, we used to watch Taxi as kids.

Speaker 1:

And you're a big fan of his film with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker 1:

No, let's not talk about his films. No, he was brilliant in Matilda. He was brilliant in Matilda. He was brilliant in man on the Moon, which is the film about Andy Kaufman, Generally a very, very talented actor. Oh, he's brilliant, Absolutely brilliant. Tell us again how you saw a clip of him on screen. So rude, Make a noise. What Can I just say for people who can't see my sister's face at the moment? Her jaw just dropped my obvious joke of me bragging that. I saw Danny Devito obviously joking, but she forgot we're doing a podcast and nobody could see her opening her mouth so wide and then giving me daggers. I've got a lovely face for podcasting. I've got the face of podcasting. Tell us about. It's always sunny in ph. As I briefly said earlier, it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia is American TV's longest running live action sitcom. It arrived on American screens in 2005 and has aired 16 seasons and 170 episodes to date and has orders to provide 18 seasons. And what season are we on, did you say? It said 16. We've got two more seasons to come.

Speaker 1:

Go on Fingers crossed, if not more.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true. Yep. Imdb describes the show as the gang Five raging alcoholic narcissists run a failing dive bar in South Philadelphia. The gang make up some scheme for sex, money, fame or any other terrible reason any of them can fabricate. It always goes south, however, as the gang's plans blow up in their faces, sometimes even literally.

Speaker 1:

The episode that I have chosen well, I chose it's Always Sunny you knew straight away which episode it was going to be. Yeah, of course I knew which episode you were going to. When you go back to a time and time again, you can probably repeat verbatim. But I'm really disappointed in you. Again, I am Because you didn't begin with Come one and all. Did you just sing that? Say it, I can't have Charlie Day ringing me up going.

Speaker 1:

You know that podcast that I happen to listen to because it's so popular and loads of people listen to it. Can you not sing the words? I can't copyright words, okay, I can't copyright them in a short way like that, but if you're going to sing it, okay, can you Come one and all to a beautiful show? Well, actually it starts off at 7.15pm. Okay, the Nightman Cometh. Yes, is the 13th and final episode of season four of it's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, originally aired on the FX channel on November, the 20th 2008. In this episode, charlie stages a rock opera based on his song Nightman, which was first heard in the ninth episode of the third season. The title of the play is a reference to the Iceman comic. I saw that I was going to say have you seen?

Speaker 2:

this. Let's not talk about that. That wasn't a comedy.

Speaker 1:

It really wasn't. No, it wasn't a comedy and.

Speaker 1:

Denzel Washington definitely wasn't a comic actor in it. So next that plays about dead-end alcoholics who spend every possible moment seeking oblivion in each other's company and trying to con all weedle-free drinks from Harry and the bartenders, which definitely mirrors the gang. So since its broadcast, the Nightman Cometh has become widely regarded as one of the best episodes of the series. Definitely, and it has an IMDB rating of 9.7. Netflix has this episode on its streaming site. In the UK it probably is available elsewhere. It describes this episode with Charlie, with the help of the rest of the gang, stages a rock opera based on his song Nightmare. Yes, now, who wouldn't want to watch that? I'm in already, okay.

Speaker 1:

I'm already in. As we said, charlie arrives and sings. Come one, come all to a beautiful show. Okay, it's going to be awesome, and some other stuff.

Speaker 2:

And some other stuff.

Speaker 1:

Charlie arrives, he's got a pile of papers he has. Yeah, it's a mess, though it's okay because Artemis sorts it out for him. Well, exactly, good old Artemis. Yeah, he announces that he's written a musical and that the gang could be in it, and they're immediately suspicious. Of course they would be. Who's the mark? No one writes a musical for no reason. It's true, absolute fact.

Speaker 2:

But you know what?

Speaker 1:

Charlie insists that he has, but has he really?

Speaker 1:

Has he so good old Artemis has made it legible, she's booked the hall, she's done everything for him, she's sorted it all. Of course, mac and Dennis argue over the roles. Now, this section, the rehearsal scenes, are the best. They are pretty special. They are perfect in so many ways. You've got the arguing, yes, the constant talk of the show, and Charlie has to insist. It's all a metaphor. It's a metaphor. Man, he was a nightmare. Oh, sorry, skipping way ahead. There wasn't I.

Speaker 1:

We start off with a song about a tiny boy, little boy, little boy, baby boy, and Dee's got some concerns about it. Well, yeah, first of all, she's singing it to her brother, but if you know, she wasn't meant to. She was meant to be singing it to Mac. Yeah, true, before they swapped roles, before they swapped roles. But she wants to know why she's wanted to get into this little boy, tiny boy. Yeah, and quite rightly, she's wondering about the appropriateness of this song. Yeah, and of course, charlie's explaining. It's a metaphor. But he tells her she doesn't have to do the song, she doesn't have to sing it. No, so what's she going to sing instead? Well, if she looks onto the other side, she can what she can see, but there's nothing on it, absolutely nothing. What I loved about this scene as well is that he speaks to her, she, he says he can set, can cut the song if she's not happy with it, and she's saying thank you.

Speaker 1:

And then things ramp up a little bit because dennis wants to sing the song, yeah, and Charlie's getting more and more upset and sends Artemis and Dennis away to take the fight. And Charlie asks Dee, did Dee write a musical? And come to Charlie with it? No, and he does this whole speech to her and you can see her looking more and more scared and at the end he says so little, miss all that song or no song, which she immediately backs down. And he's constantly making these motions of where he is. He's up to here, brilliant.

Speaker 1:

And then dennis is seen to be at the side eating. Why are you eating? Because I'm nervous. He's nervous, he's got stage fright. I know how that feels. And this is so interesting in this episode how the dynamics of the group change.

Speaker 1:

Yes, charlie's the one in charge, yes, and he's never, no, the one in charge, really. No, it's not his role, it's always dennis has got this idea, or frank has got this idea, and they go along with it here. This is Charlie. This is his vehicle. Frank is just happy to be in it. He's thrilled to be playing the troll. He wants to do it naked, like they did in the 70s. Obviously, the answer was no.

Speaker 1:

This is a very serious musical. It's very serious. Charlie says it all the way through. He wants them to take it seriously. Yeah, he needs them to. Yeah, it's very serious. Charlie says it all the way through. He wants them to take it seriously. Yeah, he needs them to. Yeah, it's his musical. So then they move on to the scene, which is probably again, this is the best scene, along with the previous scene with Dee. It's all about the boy's hole and boy's soul confusion. But why is Charlie written a musical? That becomes clear Mm-hmm on opening night, when you can see charlie is becoming more and more demonic, in a way because he's rattled, because he's got so much riding on this he's asked the waitress to come and see it. The love of his life the waitress.

Speaker 1:

Well, at that stage anyway, to come he promises her promises her that if she turns up that she never has to see him again. So of course she does. He's kept her seat in the front row. Poor Mac, you can't wait to go on stage because laughs are easy, laughs are cheap, gasps are where it's at. And does he get gasps? He laughs at him. He's got laughs.

Speaker 1:

And what's funny about Mac's performance is that he speaks as if he doesn't realise that there's an audience watching. He's just talking to himself, almost the reporter to them, as the gang Dee tells Charlie, she's adding a song. And he says do not add a song, yep. And what does he say to her? I can't remember. Remember something about her face in there. I will smack your face off of your face, do not add a song. So of course she does it to say, to make it clear, to explain, just to be clear, just to be clear, I didn't sing it. Well, it was close enough. And, Charlie, don't sue me, it's done out of love. Yeah, Charlie is. Oh, his face. Yeah, he's furious. And then he says keep singing beep. Yeah, you're not going to have a face by the time. I'm done with you.

Speaker 1:

And as he gets more and more cross with what's going on, I'm done with you. And as he gets more and more cross with what's going on, he says later I'm going to smack everyone into tiny little pieces. The gang cannot support each other. On stage, mac skips a line, says Dennis's line, and Dennis tells him, tells him on stage in front of the audience. Yeah, that he's done it. Does it stop him? No, of course not. He just starts saying dennis's lines, yeah, but when they finish he goes stage three. What happens when they all stage freeze?

Speaker 1:

charlie appears you descend where your sunshine descends on the sun. Yes, because he was. There was a motive, there was a reason. Yeah, because he was, he was proposing. Yeah, because he was the night man turned into day man and now he's come to ask for her hand Will you marry me? And she says no, not a chance. No, she says she doesn't have to see him again. Yeah, and he just says, well, no, yeah, I didn't sign anything, so I'll see you tomorrow. Oh, I mean, she should have really got the police on him.

Speaker 1:

I know it's not fair, and then they sing that brilliant song. Mand, ah, why do you love this episode? It doesn't make sense. The musical itself is great. Lynn manuel miranda was on the podcast talking about it and he was saying how good it was as a musical. But that's the brilliance of it, because it just comes from nowhere. You just, you just suddenly wonder what the gang are going to do. The gang are going to do a musical. This is why I like Sunny, because they can go anywhere and do anything and it's still fine, because within the realms of that world they can do anything. You can go and try and book a theatre with no money and see what happens.

Speaker 1:

The reason I think you like it is more personal, because we used to have theatre company. Oh yes, we did, yes, and we didn't do musicals. You definitely don't want to hear me sing, but there was a lot of skipping lines. We had somebody on stage that not quite on stage but could be heard by the audience saying lights down, yep, lights up, taking other people's lines, and instead of not even acknowledging it, they're just carrying on. We've had people who completely say the wrong things and when other people get them out of it. They go back to where they were. Yes, yes, and I think this is why you like this so much. It's a bit close to home for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, perhaps it's got.

Speaker 1:

I love music, of course, as well. Yeah, true, you got that side as well. But, charlie, being the director, you were charlie, weren't you? I was not ever Charlie. You were Charlie, weren't you? I never threatened anybody. Yeah, you'd stand at the side of the stage. I never did that. Up to here, I am Up to here. You used to say I'm going to take your face off your face.

Speaker 1:

No, I never threatened anybody. I'd never do that. Yeah, so I think that's why you left this episode as well. There was probably an element of that Time for the quiz. What are the opening lines to the episode? It's an easy one for you. Come one and all to a beautiful show. It's going to be awesome, and some other stuff. No, no, I'm singing. It's going to be awesome, and some other stuff. Dum-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da on. I want to say Tuesday or Wednesday. They usually start on Tuesday or Wednesday, so, differently on this episode, it was 7.15pm on a Friday, on a Friday, okay, and you've already answered this, but I wonder if you remember what episode did the original Dayman appear in? But the name of the episode? Ooh, was that the one with Dee? Dates, dates? Yeah, don't say the words yeah, it Dee dates. Uh, it was in season three, wasn't it? Yeah, episode nine yeah, sweet d stating a person.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're not going to say the words, because it was never acceptable in britain. I know it was in america at some stage, which is why they've reused it, but even when I did the podcast about this episode, they refused to acknowledge that line. Yeah because they said they would never do it now Never do it now.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so Gladys the lovely pianist, yes, on the actual performance night. Mm-hmm, who does she keep saying she met? Oh gosh, lyndon. No, it's something like Simon Burns. No, who is it? Calvin Coolidge? Calvin Coolidge, he's the 30th American President. Okay, what does Frank do to upset Charlie at rehearsals, apart from the singing and dancing? Boys hole, boys hole. No, you choose gum. Oh, of course you make some spit at him. Yeah, yeah, now the set is painted on. Oh my gosh, so there's some shelving painted on there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Is there? You've got a 50-50 chance here. Is there a bowl or a wizard, gnome type figure, Painted as on the shelf? A bowl or a gnome type wizard thing?

Speaker 1:

It looks like a wizard gnome. Well, it's going to be that, surely? The second thing? No, because it's a trick question. It's the bowl, because the other is on the painted table, of course, see, this is so. There's a whole scene. The other is on the painted table, of course, see, this is so. There's a whole scene where Frank is chewing gum and they don't. And you're asking me what's painted on the scenery? Okay, what excuse does Charlie use to bump into the waitress? No, no, I forgot. He's looking for the $100 note that he dropped. Okay, no, I forgot the last one. He's looking for the $100 note that he drops. Okay, what is the troll's name? Oh, my gosh, I don't know. I honestly don't know. Antonio, it's mentioned, but you don't control me, antonio. Oh, okay, there we go, and you know this one, but I thought I'd give you a nice, easy one. What is the name of the pianist on show night? Oh, gladys, gladys. And Gladys only started acting when she was 90.

Speaker 2:

And that gives hope for me really doesn't it?

Speaker 1:

She died when she was 99. My final question is nice and easy as well. Go on. What was the show in aid of? Oh my gosh, what was the show in aid of, as in? What was it all for? Oh, so Charlie could propose to the waitress he was going to stun her with his musical talents, and then she'd marry him. And did you hear on the podcast, or see?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I watched the podcast.

Speaker 1:

When they had Lin-Manuel Miranda on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they asked him who was his mark for hamilton.

Speaker 1:

What did he say? Well, it was a joke. And he said jefferson, oh, that's right. Yeah, it was cool. Hey, it's geek corner. Do the jingle man da? Geek corner, geek corner, geek, geek, geek. That is amazing. I'm glad we won't have to go on fiver and pay for a jingle, right? Okay, do you want to give your amazing fact and give that? Yeah. A unique aspect of the night man cometh is how it was filmed. The scenes of the play itself were actually done as a play with a real audience, while all the behind the curtain drama was filled separately. So the audience reactions were cutting. The audience apparently were very bemused as to what on earth was going on as they watched it. And because the show was so popular, the gang, the gang, the gang were approached to do a musical tour of this.

Speaker 1:

They were asked to do tours of quite a few places, but they actually narrowed it down and did a much smaller tour and they performed in New York City, boston, seattle, san Francisco, la and Philadelphia and we had Mary Elizabeth Ellis and Artemis appearing in their roles and Danny DeVito's wife. She famous Danny DeVito's wife A little bit famous.

Speaker 2:

She's kind of famous.

Speaker 1:

Reappearance absolutely. Well what's she done? Well, she played Carla in Cheers for Many Years. She has many roles. Of course, her most recent role was in Barbie. Exactly, she was in Barbie, I'm going to argue, biggest film last year. It might not have won all the awards, but Was it not the highest grossing?

Speaker 2:

film of the year.

Speaker 1:

It was the highest grossing film of the year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, successful couples. Some might say Danny DeVito and Rhea Perlman. Yeah, shall we talk about the series in general? I've got a few facts because I put many. Well, I put many. If we carry on doing this anyway, that will come back to it's Always Sunny, some little facts about. You're probably going to know all these I can't tell you about it's Always Sunny, but here we go.

Speaker 1:

They made their own pilot Ron McElhenney, charlie Day and Glenn Howerton. They made their own pilot and sold the series based on that. You can actually watch it on YouTube, but Sweet D is not in it. There is a female character, but she was more like a voice of reason. They auditioned people to play the part of Sweet D. One of the reasons they did that pilot is the British office, because they realised they didn't need the expense of a studio or expensive lighting and things like that. When Caitlin Olsen auditioned, she read a part written for Dennis. When she found out she wouldn't be the Dennis character, she would just be a normal inverted commas voice of reason person she said she didn't want to do it. So to keep her, they changed the part. So she's part of the reason for the success of it's Always Sunny. Oh, I didn't know that.

Speaker 2:

Well, I didn't know that Well, I know she's obviously she's a huge part of the success, but I didn't realise how she got the role Right at the beginning.

Speaker 1:

She was that she got the role altered. Fx threatened cancellation after the first season so they needed to get a name on it. Before production of the second season, rob McElhenney found out Danny DeVito or his children were a fan of the show, so pitched a character to him. Devito was only available for 20 days, so all his scenes were filmed first.

Speaker 1:

In season two, the final title card is RCG, which is Rob, charlie, glenn, which is the name of their production company. It was RCH in the beginning, but there's a secret message on each season which fans have tried to decipher. The first season is reportedly says because I'm not trying to listen to it backwards, you're stupid for playing this backwards, but a lot of the time time it's just talking about brown and you and you're like, were they pitching their whiskey to us? Because, remember, rob, charlie and glenn, they're my mates. I can call them by their first names. Yeah, they used to do a podcast. Yeah, they used to do a podcast and they just stopped suddenly and then and then they just started selling whiskey instead Four Walls, four Walls Whiskey.

Speaker 1:

So they were probably putting it in our heads to drink whiskey 10 years ago maybe, who knows. I suppose in a way it makes more sense because the show is set in a bar, another one it was originally titled it's Always Sunny on TV named after what song was that?

Speaker 2:

man, that wasn't even the right song.

Speaker 1:

That's why I stopped Named after the A-ha song. The Sun Always Shines on TV. Not Take On Me, no that's why I stopped. The network wasn't keen on that so it was changed to it was all the Sony in Philadelphia, because Rob McElhenney is from Philadelphiaadelphia. Macklehenny isa huge fan of games of thrones, or was a huge fan of game of thrones, did he like the last?

Speaker 1:

yeah, we need to talk about the last episode, but the showrunners, david bennoff and db weiss, were huge fans of sunny too, so they were invited to write the season nine episode of Flowers for Charlie.

Speaker 2:

Remember that one.

Speaker 1:

A lot of Danny DeVito's social media now is him taking a picture of his toe against a background with Toad Trill. So that episode directly it spawned his social media. It spawned his social media and I read this, but I don't think it's spawned his social media. It's spawned his social media and I read this and I was, but I don't think it's true and you've put this as well. It's the longest running live action comedy series and it's not. It might be in america, but it's definitely not.

Speaker 1:

No, it is america yeah, but when I was reading it, I read a lot of things like it is as if that was fact, but it probably is in terms of consistency. You know there's a series every one to two years, but I think Red Dwarf might want a word with them. For that You're going to say Red Dwarf's not on anymore. Remember there was a court case with the creators of Red Dwarf? Yeah, grant Naylor. So it's now split. So one owns the merchandise rights and story rights and one owns the TV rights now. So there will be more Red Dwarf. And that concludes.

Speaker 1:

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia with a chat about Red Dwarf. No, no, although I do like Red Dwarf, red Dwarf's awesome. We have to talk about Red Dwarf. Queeg, thank you for joining us. We'd just like to point out that a lot of the information we've used is from the internet. And did you know the internet can lie? If you want to get in touch, our Instagram is At TV Comedy Pod. And did you know the internet can lie? If you want to get in touch, our Instagram is at tvcomedypod. You can visit the website at tvcomedypodcastcom or you can email us at thattvcomedypodcast at outlookcom. Thanks again, bye, bye. Thanks again, bye.

Speaker 2:

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